Awakening to Your Higher Version Self
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Introduction
This article (as well as video and audio version) is from a masterclass talk I gave when I was a guest speaker on an online spiritual summit. I spoke about the Higher Self, the soul, and the multidimensional nature of our inner world. What you’ll read below is the full transcript of that talk, as well as the video version.
The masterclass explores the difference between the soul, the Higher Self, and the “higher version self,” along with practical metaphors, energy techniques, and simple awareness practices that help you rise out of lower states and reconnect with your true spiritual essence. It’s a deep, yet accessible conversation designed to meet you exactly where you are and guide you upward in a realistic, grounded way, one level at a time. |
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Understanding the True Authentic Self
TINA: What is our true authentic self? Why should we experience it and how would that help us with our daily struggles with our mind, our self‑criticism, our past experiences? Give us a little bit of an explanation.
NATALIA: We all know that we have this innate sense of our true self within us, but when we're born onto this earth, which is very difficult energy at times, we lose touch with that.
We always have this little flame within us that reminds us, and especially those of us who are the lightworkers and the soul seekers: empaths, old souls and energy sensitives ... we have this feeling like we're so much more.
And yet when we've shown that to others, sometimes it's not reciprocated or we get a dense or negative reaction, and unfortunately over time, we learn to dim those lights.
NATALIA: We all know that we have this innate sense of our true self within us, but when we're born onto this earth, which is very difficult energy at times, we lose touch with that.
We always have this little flame within us that reminds us, and especially those of us who are the lightworkers and the soul seekers: empaths, old souls and energy sensitives ... we have this feeling like we're so much more.
And yet when we've shown that to others, sometimes it's not reciprocated or we get a dense or negative reaction, and unfortunately over time, we learn to dim those lights.
Why We Dim Our Light
The angels really wanted to bring this through today. They gave me the feeling of wanting to remind us who we are and to rise up to that next level.
As so much light comes down onto earth, which it has been for some time now, we go through these pockets of energy where there are all these energy shifts and you can really feel it. It's like those days where you wake up and everything feels brighter. But they remind us that we are already that as we are. It's just that we rise and fall and go through our difficulties, which is all normal.
Energy Shifts, Evolution & Rising Higher
The message through everything is that we are shifting, we are evolving, and we can elevate and transform and go to that next level ourselves. Sometimes the energy does it for us, but we can also do it ourselves. We do have a higher version of ourselves available to us at any time, and it's there for us to step into. The more that you're aware of this and do it, the easier it gets.
Stepping Into the Upgraded Version of Yourself
What the Higher Version Self Actually Is
Basically, your higher version self, you can call it whatever you like, you can call it the true self, it's really the highest you that you can be as a human.
It's a sort of higher, more advanced version, kind of like if we're an iPhone and then you get the upgrades and you're that next level and you now don't have those older glitches. But you know, we can fall and rise and it's all normal. But when you're that higher version and you've been upgraded, and you all know when you've had those moments like I mentioned before, that's the closest you can be in this lifetime to God Source, to the higher energy, and it feels great.
We just need to be reminded that that potential is always here for us at any time, that we can access it.
Your Multidimensional Nature
We might feel we're one‑dimensional, let alone three‑dimensional, but we're actually multi‑dimensional. And there's so much more in this, so much that science and metaphysics is showing us, which is that we can quantum shift to a higher reality, to other timelines. That's a whole other topic. But really, your higher version self is connected to all of that. And it can be quite simple. It doesn't have to be complicated. And everyone's different with that.
The Ripple Effect of Your Higher Self
It has so many positive benefits, not just for yourself but also other people around you. It has that ripple effect where others see and sense your light and your brightness, and it impacts them on some level.
Because in this world of darkness, the angels once showed me (sometimes I get clairvoyant images), an image of a globe of earth and all these little lights scattered around the earth, which is us, the lightworkers, the souls that have that sense that we're this soul and we're not just human.
They wanted to remind us that they see that. They see our brilliance, and we forget, and we dim our lights.
Understanding the Lower Self
TINA: Okay. So if there is a higher self, there must also be a lower self. So now, let's say I wake up in the morning and I'm completely anxious, or I struggle with my relationship, or I was traumatized in my past and today I feel all the effects, the self‑criticism... Once I experience that, that would mean I'm in the dimension of the lower self, right? So how do I, once I experience these strong emotions and feel uncomfortable in this moment, remind myself that that's not all there is? How do I get from this moment of struggle to the higher self?
NATALIA: I really know what you mean because I've gone through it all too, and sometimes it feels worse. Sometimes it takes a lot, and at other times it's not too hard.
I love the way you said if there's a higher, there has to be a lower, because that's how it works, the laws of duality and so on. It really is like two sides of the coin, but it's all the one coin. And so that's where that remembrance of who you are and your fullness and your wholeness, that you are an embodiment of something higher walking around like this little human that has to go through this seesaw.
What the Lower Self Actually Is
There are things you can do when you feel in your lower self. The lower self (some people might call it the ego or your shadow self , is really just the lower, toxic, dense energy, all the more negative thoughts and emotions.
Often you feel like you are lost and alone and separate, which is really ironic or interesting because they show us that because we feel so separate, we're on the other end of the spectrum. Because if we felt that sense of unity, the complete opposite, that's when we're closest to our higher self.
So that's where this whole topic comes full circle.
Basically, your higher version self, you can call it whatever you like, you can call it the true self, it's really the highest you that you can be as a human.
It's a sort of higher, more advanced version, kind of like if we're an iPhone and then you get the upgrades and you're that next level and you now don't have those older glitches. But you know, we can fall and rise and it's all normal. But when you're that higher version and you've been upgraded, and you all know when you've had those moments like I mentioned before, that's the closest you can be in this lifetime to God Source, to the higher energy, and it feels great.
We just need to be reminded that that potential is always here for us at any time, that we can access it.
Your Multidimensional Nature
We might feel we're one‑dimensional, let alone three‑dimensional, but we're actually multi‑dimensional. And there's so much more in this, so much that science and metaphysics is showing us, which is that we can quantum shift to a higher reality, to other timelines. That's a whole other topic. But really, your higher version self is connected to all of that. And it can be quite simple. It doesn't have to be complicated. And everyone's different with that.
The Ripple Effect of Your Higher Self
It has so many positive benefits, not just for yourself but also other people around you. It has that ripple effect where others see and sense your light and your brightness, and it impacts them on some level.
Because in this world of darkness, the angels once showed me (sometimes I get clairvoyant images), an image of a globe of earth and all these little lights scattered around the earth, which is us, the lightworkers, the souls that have that sense that we're this soul and we're not just human.
They wanted to remind us that they see that. They see our brilliance, and we forget, and we dim our lights.
Understanding the Lower Self
TINA: Okay. So if there is a higher self, there must also be a lower self. So now, let's say I wake up in the morning and I'm completely anxious, or I struggle with my relationship, or I was traumatized in my past and today I feel all the effects, the self‑criticism... Once I experience that, that would mean I'm in the dimension of the lower self, right? So how do I, once I experience these strong emotions and feel uncomfortable in this moment, remind myself that that's not all there is? How do I get from this moment of struggle to the higher self?
NATALIA: I really know what you mean because I've gone through it all too, and sometimes it feels worse. Sometimes it takes a lot, and at other times it's not too hard.
I love the way you said if there's a higher, there has to be a lower, because that's how it works, the laws of duality and so on. It really is like two sides of the coin, but it's all the one coin. And so that's where that remembrance of who you are and your fullness and your wholeness, that you are an embodiment of something higher walking around like this little human that has to go through this seesaw.
What the Lower Self Actually Is
There are things you can do when you feel in your lower self. The lower self (some people might call it the ego or your shadow self , is really just the lower, toxic, dense energy, all the more negative thoughts and emotions.
Often you feel like you are lost and alone and separate, which is really ironic or interesting because they show us that because we feel so separate, we're on the other end of the spectrum. Because if we felt that sense of unity, the complete opposite, that's when we're closest to our higher self.
So that's where this whole topic comes full circle.
Higher Version Self vs Higher Self vs Soul
So there are lots of things you can do, but I wanted to first talk about the difference between the higher version self, the higher self, the soul, and our humanness — and bring it all together before going through some steps.
Because all really mix with the message that's coming through. I've mentioned the higher version self. We also have what people refer to as the higher self, and it can all get a bit confusing.
The Higher Self: Your Ultimate Energy Identity
Think of your higher self as your most ultimate energy self that's in the multi‑dimensions, in the ethers. It's outside of you. It's not your human body. And it's bigger than you. It's the ultimate. It's magnificent. It's omnipotent, filled with spirit energy.
It gives you guidance just like the angels and your spirit guides do. You can speak with your higher self and channel through that energy to guide you because it knows you more than anybody.
It's overlooked all your lifetimes, but that's where your soul comes into place as well, which I'll talk about in a moment.
It has a higher frequency. It's our most spiritual self without our sense of self and identity.
The Soul: The Core of Your Being
And then we have our soul, which often feels to people like it's embodied within you, deeply. You feel it in your heart or in your core. It's an embodiment of you — your soul — and it comes with you. It travels with you for all your lifetimes. The angels gave me a picture of a sun. They said the sun represents your soul — the circle — and each ray is like each lifetime you've had. So it's all interconnected. I really loved this image. It's so visual and it makes a lot of sense.
So this is the core of the soul (watch video above to see my hand movements to represent this). And then imagine in this lifetime, this is you now in this lifetime here (as a human).
How the Higher Version Self Connects to the Soul
When you're your higher version self, which I mentioned earlier, you're most connected to the sun. You're closer to the soul. You're closer to the self. You have that higher energy. Therefore, closer to your higher self and God and the angels and all that.
It's a higher frequency and it's very light. You're filled with your light.
The Spectrum: Higher Self to Lower Self
And then as you go down, that's trimmed to your lower self, as in what we have been talking about where everything's hard and awful. Interestingly enough, that's more connected with the base reality, to lower density, and to earth.
They showed that image to demonstrate that it's a spectrum, and that you can move up and down that scale.
Because all really mix with the message that's coming through. I've mentioned the higher version self. We also have what people refer to as the higher self, and it can all get a bit confusing.
The Higher Self: Your Ultimate Energy Identity
Think of your higher self as your most ultimate energy self that's in the multi‑dimensions, in the ethers. It's outside of you. It's not your human body. And it's bigger than you. It's the ultimate. It's magnificent. It's omnipotent, filled with spirit energy.
It gives you guidance just like the angels and your spirit guides do. You can speak with your higher self and channel through that energy to guide you because it knows you more than anybody.
It's overlooked all your lifetimes, but that's where your soul comes into place as well, which I'll talk about in a moment.
It has a higher frequency. It's our most spiritual self without our sense of self and identity.
The Soul: The Core of Your Being
And then we have our soul, which often feels to people like it's embodied within you, deeply. You feel it in your heart or in your core. It's an embodiment of you — your soul — and it comes with you. It travels with you for all your lifetimes. The angels gave me a picture of a sun. They said the sun represents your soul — the circle — and each ray is like each lifetime you've had. So it's all interconnected. I really loved this image. It's so visual and it makes a lot of sense.
So this is the core of the soul (watch video above to see my hand movements to represent this). And then imagine in this lifetime, this is you now in this lifetime here (as a human).
How the Higher Version Self Connects to the Soul
When you're your higher version self, which I mentioned earlier, you're most connected to the sun. You're closer to the soul. You're closer to the self. You have that higher energy. Therefore, closer to your higher self and God and the angels and all that.
It's a higher frequency and it's very light. You're filled with your light.
The Spectrum: Higher Self to Lower Self
And then as you go down, that's trimmed to your lower self, as in what we have been talking about where everything's hard and awful. Interestingly enough, that's more connected with the base reality, to lower density, and to earth.
They showed that image to demonstrate that it's a spectrum, and that you can move up and down that scale.
You can speak with your higher self and channel through that energy to guide you because it knows you more than anybody.
- Natalia Kuna
A Practical Way to Shift Out of the Lower Self
One of the things you can do to help when you're feeling down, is to think of yourself as a building, and you have many levels.
I mentioned before we're not one‑dimensional; we're multi‑dimensional. You're multi‑level.
The Building Metaphor: Understanding Your Inner Levels
Think of the lower floor as the base floor, like your base (root) chakra, the lowest, like a basement. That is your base self.
Imagine that whole floor being dark and dingy and heavy, and everyone's arguing and it's horrible. Then as you go up the levels, the very last level at the top: the penthouse suite, has the nice big windows everywhere. Whereas the basement is all covered, planks on all the windows, you can't see anything. And you have that overview, much like your higher self has an overview of everything. Everything is lighter and brighter and higher in frequency, and you feel great. You're skipping around, singing, doing your stuff. And it's lovely up there.
Remembering Your Higher Level Exists
One of the things you can do when you're feeling lower, is just to remember, like you said: Remember who you are. Remember you are that building, and that higher level exists.
It might feel like it's so far away and you are so down there. But other times you might be on floor three or five or eight, and it's just a bit of tweaking to get there. So have that image in your consciousness, and hold that awareness.
I mentioned before we're not one‑dimensional; we're multi‑dimensional. You're multi‑level.
The Building Metaphor: Understanding Your Inner Levels
Think of the lower floor as the base floor, like your base (root) chakra, the lowest, like a basement. That is your base self.
Imagine that whole floor being dark and dingy and heavy, and everyone's arguing and it's horrible. Then as you go up the levels, the very last level at the top: the penthouse suite, has the nice big windows everywhere. Whereas the basement is all covered, planks on all the windows, you can't see anything. And you have that overview, much like your higher self has an overview of everything. Everything is lighter and brighter and higher in frequency, and you feel great. You're skipping around, singing, doing your stuff. And it's lovely up there.
Remembering Your Higher Level Exists
One of the things you can do when you're feeling lower, is just to remember, like you said: Remember who you are. Remember you are that building, and that higher level exists.
It might feel like it's so far away and you are so down there. But other times you might be on floor three or five or eight, and it's just a bit of tweaking to get there. So have that image in your consciousness, and hold that awareness.
Step One: Awareness as the Foundation
The first step I would say is awareness (for everything). Everything in the spiritual world is: be aware first. When you have that awareness, that consciousness, everything moves from that point.
If you're aware that you have this higher version self, but you're feeling low right now, then assess. Go into yourself, have that quiet time and really assess and feel: what are the lower qualities I have? What are some higher qualities that I could channel through? And if you can't do that, that's fine. Just do that if you can. Sometimes it's just like: "Oh there's no way!"
Assessing Your State Before You Shift
So have that feeling that you're really feeling into it and you're being really aware. And then from that point, you can work towards releasing.
How to Clear Your Lower, Shadow Self
You can release a number of ways. Simple things like journaling, exercising and walks, right down to energy techniques, meditation, visualization.
You could visualize a whole lot of light coming down onto your shadow self or your lower self and cleansing and releasing that.
Or you can get some energy work done if you need to, and really see that that change can happen at any time, at any moment, and it's all in the now.
Why Releasing Makes a Difference
When we're feeling low, we're often thinking of the past and all our traumas come back and it's all mixed up. Especially as an energy sensitive or empath, you're just taking it all on. It's not all your own stuff. it's also other people's, and it's just this big mess sometimes.
If you're aware that you have this higher version self, but you're feeling low right now, then assess. Go into yourself, have that quiet time and really assess and feel: what are the lower qualities I have? What are some higher qualities that I could channel through? And if you can't do that, that's fine. Just do that if you can. Sometimes it's just like: "Oh there's no way!"
Assessing Your State Before You Shift
So have that feeling that you're really feeling into it and you're being really aware. And then from that point, you can work towards releasing.
How to Clear Your Lower, Shadow Self
You can release a number of ways. Simple things like journaling, exercising and walks, right down to energy techniques, meditation, visualization.
You could visualize a whole lot of light coming down onto your shadow self or your lower self and cleansing and releasing that.
Or you can get some energy work done if you need to, and really see that that change can happen at any time, at any moment, and it's all in the now.
Why Releasing Makes a Difference
When we're feeling low, we're often thinking of the past and all our traumas come back and it's all mixed up. Especially as an energy sensitive or empath, you're just taking it all on. It's not all your own stuff. it's also other people's, and it's just this big mess sometimes.
Sitting With Your Energy Instead of Bypassing It
When you recognize whose energy is who's, and what everything is, and then you step from awareness and assessment to releasing. When you pass that stage, sometimes that can be quick. Other times it might take some time and not all in the same day. And that's okay, because I'm not talking here about spiritual bypassing, which is what some people call just skipping and pretending it doesn't exist. We're not pretending. We're actually really recognizing, it's the opposite. We're sitting within ourselves.
Feeling the Emotion Before Releasing It
Sometimes just sitting, being with ourselves, and feeling: "Where is that energy?" You'll be surprised. A lot of people who are not really in touch with energy at all or can't visualize, feel it. You can feel it in your body. Maybe your stomach is tense or whatever it is. Let's say your stomach is tense. Feel it and sit with that emotion for a while and just see what comes up for you.
Most likely you'll know who and what that is. And then you can work to release that. So it's sitting with it. You can visualize.
From there, once you've done some release work, you'll be a clearer space with which to then go that next level and connect with your higher self or your higher version self, even as a kind of representation of who you are when you're in your highest potential.
Dropping Perfection and Meeting Your Higher Potential
We're not looking for perfect here. It's not about being superwoman or everything has to be perfect. It's dropping all of that. That's all ego still. It's knowing, having that spark within you, knowing that you are the spiritual being, that you have a soul. You just know it. And it's growing that from there and really nurturing that and rising to meet that higher level. And it can just be one little notch. It's okay. That's a step.
Activating the Shift Through Prayer and Intention
Pray. You can say something like:
"Dear God and the angels, thank you so much for watching over me. Please help me release what I need to and step into my highest version. I am ready, open and aware."
Anything like that also activates the energy and creates an open space for that change to take place.
Click here to read how to develop spiritually on a higher level and say empowering energy affirmations to get you there.
Why Release Work Is Essential
Release work is so important, because you're breaking up all the darker, denser energy and you're coming into a kind of homeostasis with your natural default setting. You're resetting yourself and you're taking yourself to the next level (or potentially), because you have worked through that and now you're ready for the next steps.
Feeling the Emotion Before Releasing It
Sometimes just sitting, being with ourselves, and feeling: "Where is that energy?" You'll be surprised. A lot of people who are not really in touch with energy at all or can't visualize, feel it. You can feel it in your body. Maybe your stomach is tense or whatever it is. Let's say your stomach is tense. Feel it and sit with that emotion for a while and just see what comes up for you.
Most likely you'll know who and what that is. And then you can work to release that. So it's sitting with it. You can visualize.
From there, once you've done some release work, you'll be a clearer space with which to then go that next level and connect with your higher self or your higher version self, even as a kind of representation of who you are when you're in your highest potential.
Dropping Perfection and Meeting Your Higher Potential
We're not looking for perfect here. It's not about being superwoman or everything has to be perfect. It's dropping all of that. That's all ego still. It's knowing, having that spark within you, knowing that you are the spiritual being, that you have a soul. You just know it. And it's growing that from there and really nurturing that and rising to meet that higher level. And it can just be one little notch. It's okay. That's a step.
Activating the Shift Through Prayer and Intention
Pray. You can say something like:
"Dear God and the angels, thank you so much for watching over me. Please help me release what I need to and step into my highest version. I am ready, open and aware."
Anything like that also activates the energy and creates an open space for that change to take place.
Click here to read how to develop spiritually on a higher level and say empowering energy affirmations to get you there.
Why Release Work Is Essential
Release work is so important, because you're breaking up all the darker, denser energy and you're coming into a kind of homeostasis with your natural default setting. You're resetting yourself and you're taking yourself to the next level (or potentially), because you have worked through that and now you're ready for the next steps.
Suffering Happens in the Human Layers, Not the Soul
TINA: Okay. Wow. So it's basically on a physical level and on the mind level, that's where suffering is experienced, right? In the form of a human being. But we have to realize that this is okay. This is our physical appearance, our thoughts and stuff, it's also matter. But we are the energy. We are soul. We are energy that animates this human being.
I like to visualize it like this, as if we are souls, we are energy, and in this lifetime it's our role to play a human being. And all suffering, all experiences and everything gets stored and processed in this human being. So when I personally feel really caught up in my thoughts and my emotions and I just don't feel well, I don't use the building metaphor. I like to zoom out, like I'm looking at my human being from far away. And I remember: "Okay, the suffering happens here, but I'm not that." Does that correspond with your idea of how you love yourself?
Observing and Not Absorbing: The Angelic Teaching
NATALIA: Yeah, I love that. That's really giving a higher outlook. What you're doing is, and this is my favorite line that the angels gave me many years ago, but it's stuck and it's so good:
"Observe, not absorb."
You're stepping out. You're seeing it from a higher perspective. You're stepping out of that whole energy. The more you do this, or if you're more in touch with energy, it's easier. But you can visualize that you're stepping out. Up here it's nice and light, and down here is heavy, it's all the gunk.
Seeing From Above: The Bird’s‑Eye Perspective
It's like being a bird in the sky and looking down and having that overview. You're out of it. Or standing on a bridge looking down. You're observing from that higher level. And when you're observing, you're in the state of: "Who’s that person that's observing?" It's your higher self coming through you.
Stepping Out of the Density
Then you realize: "Ah, okay". And then you step out of those human lower qualities and you see the density for what it is.
You can quite literally do that when you're observing. Don't absorb that energy. Because as empaths or energy sensitives, you might naturally go, “Oh God,” because you're thinking about all the stuff, and then you feel it on you, it starts to come on like this heavy blanket.
It's not about that. You can literally take off that blanket. I can feel it now as an energy form. Let's say I started to feel it a bit... (watch video to see my energy hands and motions), swipe that off. Release it, as if to an etheric rubbish bin or out to the light or to the angels. And be outside of it, like a head out of water. Because when you're in the water it feels thick and you can't breathe. And when your head's out, you feel that lightness. That's really what it's like.
I like to visualize it like this, as if we are souls, we are energy, and in this lifetime it's our role to play a human being. And all suffering, all experiences and everything gets stored and processed in this human being. So when I personally feel really caught up in my thoughts and my emotions and I just don't feel well, I don't use the building metaphor. I like to zoom out, like I'm looking at my human being from far away. And I remember: "Okay, the suffering happens here, but I'm not that." Does that correspond with your idea of how you love yourself?
Observing and Not Absorbing: The Angelic Teaching
NATALIA: Yeah, I love that. That's really giving a higher outlook. What you're doing is, and this is my favorite line that the angels gave me many years ago, but it's stuck and it's so good:
"Observe, not absorb."
You're stepping out. You're seeing it from a higher perspective. You're stepping out of that whole energy. The more you do this, or if you're more in touch with energy, it's easier. But you can visualize that you're stepping out. Up here it's nice and light, and down here is heavy, it's all the gunk.
Seeing From Above: The Bird’s‑Eye Perspective
It's like being a bird in the sky and looking down and having that overview. You're out of it. Or standing on a bridge looking down. You're observing from that higher level. And when you're observing, you're in the state of: "Who’s that person that's observing?" It's your higher self coming through you.
Stepping Out of the Density
Then you realize: "Ah, okay". And then you step out of those human lower qualities and you see the density for what it is.
You can quite literally do that when you're observing. Don't absorb that energy. Because as empaths or energy sensitives, you might naturally go, “Oh God,” because you're thinking about all the stuff, and then you feel it on you, it starts to come on like this heavy blanket.
It's not about that. You can literally take off that blanket. I can feel it now as an energy form. Let's say I started to feel it a bit... (watch video to see my energy hands and motions), swipe that off. Release it, as if to an etheric rubbish bin or out to the light or to the angels. And be outside of it, like a head out of water. Because when you're in the water it feels thick and you can't breathe. And when your head's out, you feel that lightness. That's really what it's like.
Understanding the Observer vs the Emotion
TINA: Wow. I love this sentence: 'Observe and don't Absorb', also because maybe some people are listening to us and they've never heard about or don't really have a connection yet with spirituality and this idea that everything's energy and you're connected.
But I like to tell someone who is having doubts about all this:
"Listen, you feel a feeling, right? So there is a feeling, there is an emotion, there is a thought, but you are observing it. So who is the observer? That means there is something outside of your brain, mind, body. So that's actually a good awareness, that you are not the emotion, you're not the thought. You are observing it. And you can also choose to shift your focus. You can choose, because if you don't give it your attention, it's like a spotlight. If you don't give it your attention, it can't exist."
Stepping Out of the Energy Instead of Absorbing It
NATALIA: Yeah, I love that you say that. You can literally step out of it. And like what you're saying, let's say you're up on a bridge in your mind and you're looking down at it. You're outside of it, you're not absorbing it
Keeping the Energy Outside of You
You can actually do some kind of energy work or visualization to move aside that energy so that when you land back down, you're not going to plonk yourself back in there, but it's to the side. Or you release it and you're to the side of it, and you're staying in observing state.
So you're really grounding in that higher awareness and higher knowledge. You're really grounded within yourself, rather than being all out there and airy fairy. You're grounded within yourself. The energy is outside of you. For example, sometimes in an energy session with a person, if something comes up, I see the energy of their stuff. Sometimes there's a ball that I hold in my hand: this energy, or sometimes it might be a psychic session and someone's narcissistic partner pops up.
I'm like, "Oh," so I just put them to the side there (the energy of the negative person). I literally hold the energy there because I'm very empathic. But also with the client, they start to feel it too. They start to feel down because we're talking about it, it's coming up, they start to feel it. So just push it and keep it to the side. Quite literally you can do that so that any energy of what you're experiencing is outside of you, to the side. So you're not a part of it. You're not in it, absorbing. You're just outside of it, observing it. And there are more energy techniques you can use, such as protection and so on.
But I like to tell someone who is having doubts about all this:
"Listen, you feel a feeling, right? So there is a feeling, there is an emotion, there is a thought, but you are observing it. So who is the observer? That means there is something outside of your brain, mind, body. So that's actually a good awareness, that you are not the emotion, you're not the thought. You are observing it. And you can also choose to shift your focus. You can choose, because if you don't give it your attention, it's like a spotlight. If you don't give it your attention, it can't exist."
Stepping Out of the Energy Instead of Absorbing It
NATALIA: Yeah, I love that you say that. You can literally step out of it. And like what you're saying, let's say you're up on a bridge in your mind and you're looking down at it. You're outside of it, you're not absorbing it
Keeping the Energy Outside of You
You can actually do some kind of energy work or visualization to move aside that energy so that when you land back down, you're not going to plonk yourself back in there, but it's to the side. Or you release it and you're to the side of it, and you're staying in observing state.
So you're really grounding in that higher awareness and higher knowledge. You're really grounded within yourself, rather than being all out there and airy fairy. You're grounded within yourself. The energy is outside of you. For example, sometimes in an energy session with a person, if something comes up, I see the energy of their stuff. Sometimes there's a ball that I hold in my hand: this energy, or sometimes it might be a psychic session and someone's narcissistic partner pops up.
I'm like, "Oh," so I just put them to the side there (the energy of the negative person). I literally hold the energy there because I'm very empathic. But also with the client, they start to feel it too. They start to feel down because we're talking about it, it's coming up, they start to feel it. So just push it and keep it to the side. Quite literally you can do that so that any energy of what you're experiencing is outside of you, to the side. So you're not a part of it. You're not in it, absorbing. You're just outside of it, observing it. And there are more energy techniques you can use, such as protection and so on.
Choosing Alignment With Your Higher Version Self
Also, when you mentioned it's a choice, I really liked that because it really is. It's a choice every day, even simple things. So after you do the awareness and the releasing and the connecting, then it's the action steps. Because sometimes there's an instant transformation just through the connection and awareness and releasing. But at other times, you need to take action steps, like implementing any kind of change.
Daily Reminders to Stay in Your Higher State
Sometimes if you want to step into a higher version or truer self, then you can remind yourself throughout the day. Such as if I write "HVS" on my hand (as in Higher Version Self ), I'll be reminded during the day. Because we get on with life and then we forget all about it, and then we enter our lower selves so quickly.
For example, today I was meditating. I was in a great space. And then my son was in a mood and straight away my mood was down. I was like: "No, not now!" And then I realized: "Here we go. Here's a lesson."
So I said to mysalf: "No, come back to your higher version self. Put that energy to the side. Stop absorbing it," because I was absorbing it.
Choosing the Higher Way Instead of the Lower Reaction
Then it's about making a choice. It's choosing to align with a higher way. And you can do this with anything. I really learned several years ago that 'acceptance for what is', is so helpful. It is that phrase: "It is what it is". That's the saying that really works for me. It is what it is.
That way you're not taking it on, because we take on so much as sensitive souls. We take on the world and everybody. It's too much.
Daily Reminders to Stay in Your Higher State
Sometimes if you want to step into a higher version or truer self, then you can remind yourself throughout the day. Such as if I write "HVS" on my hand (as in Higher Version Self ), I'll be reminded during the day. Because we get on with life and then we forget all about it, and then we enter our lower selves so quickly.
For example, today I was meditating. I was in a great space. And then my son was in a mood and straight away my mood was down. I was like: "No, not now!" And then I realized: "Here we go. Here's a lesson."
So I said to mysalf: "No, come back to your higher version self. Put that energy to the side. Stop absorbing it," because I was absorbing it.
Choosing the Higher Way Instead of the Lower Reaction
Then it's about making a choice. It's choosing to align with a higher way. And you can do this with anything. I really learned several years ago that 'acceptance for what is', is so helpful. It is that phrase: "It is what it is". That's the saying that really works for me. It is what it is.
That way you're not taking it on, because we take on so much as sensitive souls. We take on the world and everybody. It's too much.
Showing Up as Your Higher Version Self Around Others
Also, if you have to do something such as go to an event and you really don't want to, but you have to, and you're going to see people that are not in their higher self, then I dare you to be your highest version self and go to the party or event with that.
Because what happens sometimes, and I find I do it myself, I dim my light around certain people and I’m a bit more of a lower version. And then I pick up on their energy and it just drags on from there. And then I feel tired. And then I'm like, that person’s gone away and not really experienced who I truly am. They might only get little snippets of it.
Breaking Old Patterns With Certain People
But if I instead, especially with people you fall into a routine or habit with, where when you're with them you always dim down and you don't show them your spiritual side or talk about it, for example I have someone in mind with that.
I've told myself: tomorrow night when I go to their house, I'm going to turn up as my higher version self. And I can already see and sense the change that will make. It's making the most of it. Making the most of even if you have to go to this annoying thing, just make the most of it. And that really comes down to intention, mindset and perspective.
Using Intention and Energy Protection
TINA: So you set the intention, and this is also how you guide your energies. What I like to do is, when I have to go into one of these situations, I visualize an energy field protecting me. And it really works. It's so simple. I just want to show people how simple it can be. Sometimes our mind makes everything so complicated. But in our other versions, in our higher versions, everything is so much simpler. It's so much easier. Everything is flowing.
And then when you look down at your suffering and at the problems, if you look at it from a distance, it becomes smaller. It's really this moving, seeing the bigger picture of it all, like the human being that has maybe experienced trauma, the human being that is experiencing suffering, is just a tiny, tiny, tiny little part of life. But what you are is so much more. Because we tend to identify ourselves only with our problems and the stories. Like when people say, “This is my story.” It's not your story. It's a story of life. It just happens.
Because what happens sometimes, and I find I do it myself, I dim my light around certain people and I’m a bit more of a lower version. And then I pick up on their energy and it just drags on from there. And then I feel tired. And then I'm like, that person’s gone away and not really experienced who I truly am. They might only get little snippets of it.
Breaking Old Patterns With Certain People
But if I instead, especially with people you fall into a routine or habit with, where when you're with them you always dim down and you don't show them your spiritual side or talk about it, for example I have someone in mind with that.
I've told myself: tomorrow night when I go to their house, I'm going to turn up as my higher version self. And I can already see and sense the change that will make. It's making the most of it. Making the most of even if you have to go to this annoying thing, just make the most of it. And that really comes down to intention, mindset and perspective.
Using Intention and Energy Protection
TINA: So you set the intention, and this is also how you guide your energies. What I like to do is, when I have to go into one of these situations, I visualize an energy field protecting me. And it really works. It's so simple. I just want to show people how simple it can be. Sometimes our mind makes everything so complicated. But in our other versions, in our higher versions, everything is so much simpler. It's so much easier. Everything is flowing.
And then when you look down at your suffering and at the problems, if you look at it from a distance, it becomes smaller. It's really this moving, seeing the bigger picture of it all, like the human being that has maybe experienced trauma, the human being that is experiencing suffering, is just a tiny, tiny, tiny little part of life. But what you are is so much more. Because we tend to identify ourselves only with our problems and the stories. Like when people say, “This is my story.” It's not your story. It's a story of life. It just happens.
Breaking Out of the Loop of Lower Self Thinking
Why Identifying With the Story Keeps You Stuck
NATALIA: Absolutely. And then the more that they affirm that's their story, the more that happens, they're stuck. It's like a loop tape recorder and you're just stuck in that lower level, where you're going around the same roundabout experiencing the same stuff.
Sometimes angels and guidance come through when I'm in a relaxed state. One day when I was driving, the angels showed me that instead of the actual roundabout that was coming up, they were showing how people do that (just go round and roundthe roundabout). But instead, they showed me that there are actually lots of different options. There are different roads, different highways, lanes, and so on that you can take.
You can choose to take that higher lane, the higher choice, rather than just keep going around in that mindless loop. We've all been in that loop, and it feels horrible.
Remembering Your Divine Power & Multidimensional Nature, & Keeping it Simple
But what we forget, and this comes back to the core message for today, is that we forget we have this Divine power. We're so much more. We're so much more multi‑dimensional. I love what you say about simplicity because I'm all about the simplicity, none of this needs to be complicated. Your true essence is simple. It is divine. And you feel the best when your life is simple.
Why Stillness Matters for Sensitive Souls
We're in this life where there's just so much, we're bombarded with everything. And, a lot of people can't sit still. For the people out there that really find it hard to sit down with themselves, sit through it and go there (inside of yourself), your mind will go around in circles. You can learn some mindfulness techniques to let those thoughts float away and you will feel great and content with yourself.
I have a course that helps you clear and calm your mind, check out "How to Clear Your Mind" here.
The Snowball Effect of Avoiding Your Inner World
What might happen initially when you sit in stillness, is that you'll start to feel some of the stuff you haven't wanted to that you've been avoiding and pushing down. It will come up. You'll start to feel it. That's why you don't want to sit down, because you know you've got the stuff flying around you.
All the stuff you've been going through has kept you going around in a loop, then more stuff comes up and it can build and get worse. The snowball effect. So it is helpful to just sit down with yourself, keep things simple, just breathe, come back into you.
Explore my free course: "5 Minutes to Calm, Clear and Connected" which has a meditation to take you there.
A Simple Energy Technique: Prayer Hands and Higher Self Connection
I actually received something today intuitively, to share with you. The angels showed me, and it's just a simple thing that you’ve already done before, which is the prayer hands. They showed me a very simple energy technique with this.
If you picture your higher version self or your higher self, it doesn't really matter, above you, and you put your hands up, put them in the prayer pose, and then you're bringing down that energy (see video above to see this). You will feel it, almost like as you go down, you feel that energy there, a bit of thickness there. And you embody that higher self energy within yourself. It helps you to feel really balanced and centered and in the now.
The Heart as the Portal to Higher Energy
The angels also are showing that it's like the cross, where your heart is the center of the cross. And that's your connection. It's like a portal to the other side. You are centered in that, and it feels so good. You feel so grounded with your feet on the ground.
And that is a way, if you're all over the place, to come back into yourself and pull it all in. It's like you're pulling your energy in.
Reclaiming Your Energy and Returning to Your Natural Frequency
Alot of us either throw our energy away, we get it taken from us, we give it, and we don't even know. You might be operating at 20% of your full self, your full energy. So it's bringing it back to you. It all comes down to energy, awareness, frequency, keeping it simple, embodying, and knowing that you can step up at any time.
It's okay to also go through the hard stuff because it's meant for us too. We carry these lessons. It's all part of the divine plan to go through. The soul will keep reincarnating until we work it all out and then return eventually to the higher self as that spirit energy and back at one with God, already at one with Source energy. But we feel so separate.
NATALIA: Absolutely. And then the more that they affirm that's their story, the more that happens, they're stuck. It's like a loop tape recorder and you're just stuck in that lower level, where you're going around the same roundabout experiencing the same stuff.
Sometimes angels and guidance come through when I'm in a relaxed state. One day when I was driving, the angels showed me that instead of the actual roundabout that was coming up, they were showing how people do that (just go round and roundthe roundabout). But instead, they showed me that there are actually lots of different options. There are different roads, different highways, lanes, and so on that you can take.
You can choose to take that higher lane, the higher choice, rather than just keep going around in that mindless loop. We've all been in that loop, and it feels horrible.
Remembering Your Divine Power & Multidimensional Nature, & Keeping it Simple
But what we forget, and this comes back to the core message for today, is that we forget we have this Divine power. We're so much more. We're so much more multi‑dimensional. I love what you say about simplicity because I'm all about the simplicity, none of this needs to be complicated. Your true essence is simple. It is divine. And you feel the best when your life is simple.
Why Stillness Matters for Sensitive Souls
We're in this life where there's just so much, we're bombarded with everything. And, a lot of people can't sit still. For the people out there that really find it hard to sit down with themselves, sit through it and go there (inside of yourself), your mind will go around in circles. You can learn some mindfulness techniques to let those thoughts float away and you will feel great and content with yourself.
I have a course that helps you clear and calm your mind, check out "How to Clear Your Mind" here.
The Snowball Effect of Avoiding Your Inner World
What might happen initially when you sit in stillness, is that you'll start to feel some of the stuff you haven't wanted to that you've been avoiding and pushing down. It will come up. You'll start to feel it. That's why you don't want to sit down, because you know you've got the stuff flying around you.
All the stuff you've been going through has kept you going around in a loop, then more stuff comes up and it can build and get worse. The snowball effect. So it is helpful to just sit down with yourself, keep things simple, just breathe, come back into you.
Explore my free course: "5 Minutes to Calm, Clear and Connected" which has a meditation to take you there.
A Simple Energy Technique: Prayer Hands and Higher Self Connection
I actually received something today intuitively, to share with you. The angels showed me, and it's just a simple thing that you’ve already done before, which is the prayer hands. They showed me a very simple energy technique with this.
If you picture your higher version self or your higher self, it doesn't really matter, above you, and you put your hands up, put them in the prayer pose, and then you're bringing down that energy (see video above to see this). You will feel it, almost like as you go down, you feel that energy there, a bit of thickness there. And you embody that higher self energy within yourself. It helps you to feel really balanced and centered and in the now.
The Heart as the Portal to Higher Energy
The angels also are showing that it's like the cross, where your heart is the center of the cross. And that's your connection. It's like a portal to the other side. You are centered in that, and it feels so good. You feel so grounded with your feet on the ground.
And that is a way, if you're all over the place, to come back into yourself and pull it all in. It's like you're pulling your energy in.
Reclaiming Your Energy and Returning to Your Natural Frequency
Alot of us either throw our energy away, we get it taken from us, we give it, and we don't even know. You might be operating at 20% of your full self, your full energy. So it's bringing it back to you. It all comes down to energy, awareness, frequency, keeping it simple, embodying, and knowing that you can step up at any time.
It's okay to also go through the hard stuff because it's meant for us too. We carry these lessons. It's all part of the divine plan to go through. The soul will keep reincarnating until we work it all out and then return eventually to the higher self as that spirit energy and back at one with God, already at one with Source energy. But we feel so separate.
Simple Tools That Create Real Shifts
TINA: Wow. I love all these little, simple tools. They can make such a big difference. I think for someone who is a beginner, who doesn't really know how to meditate or how to be aware, this example with the building is so simple. Because when you are caught up in your thoughts and your emotions and your anxiety and your suffering, okay, imagine yourself at the lowest level. And imagine that the lowest level is really chaotic, and there's a lot of stuff falling around, and you have to stumble over obstacles and it's hard to get through. But eventually you find the stairs. And as soon as you move up a level, it already feels a little bit lighter.
So it's okay to look at all the rubble and all the stuff and the garbage that's lying around in the basement, all the problems, but then you step up. You find your way up. And I think this is a really easy visualization to enter into this state of higher self. And then you feel that moment of grounding, it makes an immediate difference.
Why People Fear Going Within
NATALIA: Yeah, absolutely. And I want to say too, what comes up when you say that, is that many people feel scared to go within. They're scared of what might come up, of what they're avoiding. So don't be afraid to see (I’ve got goosebumps right now), because seeing is the seed of awareness. That's where everything goes from there. And a frequency opens up.
Your Home as a Mirror of Your Inner World
TINA: Exactly. And talking about the building again, it just came to my mind: You said some people don't want to go and look inside, they're scared. I mean, look at your house. Sometimes the basement is a really messy place, right? You put everything there for years. You know you should probably fix it and clean it, but you don't want to go there because you know how hard it will be to clean it up. This is our stories and the past and all this stuff. But eventually we have to start. If not, it piles up and we don't find the stairs to get up.
Everything Is Interconnected: Life Mirrors Your Energy
NATALIA: Absolutely. And also, our house is very much a sign of what we're going through. If there is clutter, I mean, it happens to all of us, we get busy... but clutter often represents the stuff you don't want to see. And it will keep being in your face, and you'll keep tripping over it till you break your foot. And then when you break your foot, you're forced to sit down on the couch and not move. And then you're dealing with your stuff and you go into recovery mode. And then you start to clean up your house eventually, and so on.
When your plumbing goes, it's all a representation of something, such as your emotions, money and blocked flow. Everything is interconnected. You begin to see that the whole world is a mirror of us and everything is energy.
Even earlier, when my son was being a bit anxious and angry, it's a sign. Okay, noted. Maybe later on I'll chat with him. If I ignored it, which has happened before, or if I'm in lower self and I'm all shitty now and he's ruined my day, then I'm going to miss it. I'm going to miss the opportunity for growth, healing, and improvement. Because once I have that chat with him, for example, energy shifts. It's like a light bulb goes off. There's light in the home. And it's a ripple effect for everybody else.
Clearing Your Space and Clearing Your Energy
Then you can do the other action steps: clear your house, sage it, open the windows, let some air in, and do all the other things.
But that's really how simple it is. And again, it comes down to: what are you avoiding? And why? And it's okay. Please do look. You’ll be surprised.
Read: Peace Starts Within You (And Your Home Feels It ENERGETICALLY)
So it's okay to look at all the rubble and all the stuff and the garbage that's lying around in the basement, all the problems, but then you step up. You find your way up. And I think this is a really easy visualization to enter into this state of higher self. And then you feel that moment of grounding, it makes an immediate difference.
Why People Fear Going Within
NATALIA: Yeah, absolutely. And I want to say too, what comes up when you say that, is that many people feel scared to go within. They're scared of what might come up, of what they're avoiding. So don't be afraid to see (I’ve got goosebumps right now), because seeing is the seed of awareness. That's where everything goes from there. And a frequency opens up.
Your Home as a Mirror of Your Inner World
TINA: Exactly. And talking about the building again, it just came to my mind: You said some people don't want to go and look inside, they're scared. I mean, look at your house. Sometimes the basement is a really messy place, right? You put everything there for years. You know you should probably fix it and clean it, but you don't want to go there because you know how hard it will be to clean it up. This is our stories and the past and all this stuff. But eventually we have to start. If not, it piles up and we don't find the stairs to get up.
Everything Is Interconnected: Life Mirrors Your Energy
NATALIA: Absolutely. And also, our house is very much a sign of what we're going through. If there is clutter, I mean, it happens to all of us, we get busy... but clutter often represents the stuff you don't want to see. And it will keep being in your face, and you'll keep tripping over it till you break your foot. And then when you break your foot, you're forced to sit down on the couch and not move. And then you're dealing with your stuff and you go into recovery mode. And then you start to clean up your house eventually, and so on.
When your plumbing goes, it's all a representation of something, such as your emotions, money and blocked flow. Everything is interconnected. You begin to see that the whole world is a mirror of us and everything is energy.
Even earlier, when my son was being a bit anxious and angry, it's a sign. Okay, noted. Maybe later on I'll chat with him. If I ignored it, which has happened before, or if I'm in lower self and I'm all shitty now and he's ruined my day, then I'm going to miss it. I'm going to miss the opportunity for growth, healing, and improvement. Because once I have that chat with him, for example, energy shifts. It's like a light bulb goes off. There's light in the home. And it's a ripple effect for everybody else.
Clearing Your Space and Clearing Your Energy
Then you can do the other action steps: clear your house, sage it, open the windows, let some air in, and do all the other things.
But that's really how simple it is. And again, it comes down to: what are you avoiding? And why? And it's okay. Please do look. You’ll be surprised.
Read: Peace Starts Within You (And Your Home Feels It ENERGETICALLY)
Wrapping Up the Conversation
TINA: Wow. I love this. We could go on and on, I love how we lose ourselves in our metaphors [laughter], you know, the house. But it makes it so much easier because the mind works like that. If you visualize, the mind understands pictures. This is how it really works. It's beautiful. It's really simple and really nice to hear all these little experiences and tools.
We already come to an end, time passes, time flies. Nice. [laughter] I wanted to tell people about your gift, you prepared a meditation, right?
CLAIM YOUR FREE GIFT: Natalia’s Higher Version Self Meditation Gift
NATALIA: Yes, I have a meditation to really step into seeing your higher version self and receiving a message to help you bridge the gap between your lower and your higher self. Claim your free gift here.
TINA: Wow.
NATALIA: To trust the intuition and guidance that you receive. Because when we are (back to the sun again), our lowest self, we can't see the wood for the trees. Everything's in darkness. So when we do a meditation to see that higher reality does exist, that higher version, you can also receive a message. And then you'll know. Because that whole gap there, which feels like a big empty void, you'll receive a key, a message, or something just to take that next step or have that awareness to take you to that next level and help you along the journey. Access it here.
TINA: Wow, beautiful. I can't wait to try it out. [laughter]
Thank you so much, all the information about Natalia. You can feel it, the connection, you are shining. [laughter]
We already come to an end, time passes, time flies. Nice. [laughter] I wanted to tell people about your gift, you prepared a meditation, right?
CLAIM YOUR FREE GIFT: Natalia’s Higher Version Self Meditation Gift
NATALIA: Yes, I have a meditation to really step into seeing your higher version self and receiving a message to help you bridge the gap between your lower and your higher self. Claim your free gift here.
TINA: Wow.
NATALIA: To trust the intuition and guidance that you receive. Because when we are (back to the sun again), our lowest self, we can't see the wood for the trees. Everything's in darkness. So when we do a meditation to see that higher reality does exist, that higher version, you can also receive a message. And then you'll know. Because that whole gap there, which feels like a big empty void, you'll receive a key, a message, or something just to take that next step or have that awareness to take you to that next level and help you along the journey. Access it here.
TINA: Wow, beautiful. I can't wait to try it out. [laughter]
Thank you so much, all the information about Natalia. You can feel it, the connection, you are shining. [laughter]
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